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qumingdi
Posted on Thursday, May 29, 2003 - 07:05 pm:   

I'm trying to send a WAP PUSH SI(Service Indication) over IS-637 SMS to a CDMA Mobile Phone.
Could you tell me the Mapping of WDP to CDMA SMS.

Best regards,

Mingdi Qu
China
Bryce Norwood - NowSMS Support (Bryce)
Posted on Thursday, May 29, 2003 - 07:35 pm:   

Hi,

Have you tried the WAP WDP specification (available from the www.openmobilealliance.org site)?

Section 6.5 covers this.

-bn
qumingdi
Posted on Sunday, June 01, 2003 - 05:59 pm:   

Hi,

I send a SMS to Mobile Phone which includes WAP PUSH. The SMS is according to the WDP protocol, it's contents as follows:

0x00(MSG_TYPE=WDP)
0x01(TOTAL_SEGMENTS=1)
0x00(SEGMENT_NUMBER=0)
0x23
0xf0(SOURCE_PORT=9200)
0x0b
0x84(DESTINATION_PORT=2948)
0x01(PUSH Id=1)
0x06(PUSH)
Other data

The Mobile Phone receives the SMS,but it takes the SMS as a normal SMS.


The SMS contents sent by the PPG of Openwave is "//WDAAMADnABUwKIABAJiaHJgTISoeqCITJKcetzq2NhMoKiSiHpkAANEANRNzQVRzSltyxFgYmZmZm psaIKCgoPLHyPNO0vPNQnNbRHNA150QAEKCwYADAYAFgI"
I do not know its meaning.

Thank you very much!

Mingdi Qu
China
Bryce Norwood - NowSMS Support
Posted on Sunday, June 01, 2003 - 06:33 pm:   

I'll be the first to admit that I've never done this in the CDMA environment before.

It's a challenge to find a link that allows us to submit a binary SMS message into a CDMA network (we're figuring that we're going to have to use a phone as a modem ... but the CDMA modem specs for sending/retrieving SMS are different from GSM).

The next challenge is for WAP push ... that most of the phones that are out on the CDMA market have OpenWave browsers in them. Early versions of the OpenWave browser supported a proprietary form of "push". (The v3.x versions were all proprietary push. The v4.x versions in the GSM environment introduced standard "WAP push" support, but I'm not sure if the same is true for CDMA versions of the browser.)

Have you set the teleservice identifier? I believe the message must be set for the WAP teleservice in order to be interpreted correctly.

Do you have access to the message coming from the OpenWave PPG in raw binary format? What you've got there looks like possibly an 8-bit message converted to 7-bit text ... but I'm not familiar enough with the inner workings of CDMA SMS to know if they use the same type of packing of 7-bit data as in GSM SMS (to pack 160 7-bit characters into 140 8-bit bytes).

-bn
Paulo Vicente Valente
Posted on Monday, August 04, 2003 - 04:17 pm:   

Well I´ve heard from some suppliers that the teleservice used to set wap push in the wap 2.0 is the 4100, you can call it also as sevice type. And I need some standard where it is described. Can someone help me?
Comete
Posted on Tuesday, August 05, 2003 - 02:58 am:   

Hi Paulo and Mingdi Qu,
About the Tele_Service_ID value, it is decided by the operator. I am prepareing the WAP 2.0 for China Unicom CDMA Push, so I know the Tele_service_ID and Protocol_ID is decided by CU.
Paulo
Posted on Tuesday, August 05, 2003 - 04:47 pm:   

Hi,
I'm here from VIVO the largest CDMA operator in Brazil. And we are trying to teste WAP 2.0 with some terminals and Openwave and we are experiencing some problems to define these teleservice. Do you have some standard where can I see how to define this teleservice? Or where I can read that I can define as I want?
Mr. Mingdi Qu, if there is no problem, could you help me with the CU experience also?
Comete
Posted on Wednesday, August 06, 2003 - 03:04 am:   

Hi Paulo,
what you said is to me or to Mr. Mingdi Qu?
Paulo
Posted on Wednesday, August 06, 2003 - 09:48 pm:   

Comete,
Do you have the IS-41E? I think perhaps we can find there the proper teleservice.
But anyone that could help me, I thank.
Best Regards
rk
Posted on Saturday, August 09, 2003 - 01:30 pm:   

Hi,

If I send a SI(confirm) message to Toshiba T618X CDMA phone, phone is sending confirmation to PPG but it is failed to display the message. Could anyone help on this. Also I would like to know the settings of the phone.

Warm regards
Raj
Comete
Posted on Tuesday, August 12, 2003 - 03:13 am:   

Hi Paulo,
In Gengral, the Tele_Service_ID can be defined by any Operator-self. Of course, the Operator can control all terminal spec and build the detail terminal spec. we are doing as the way in China.
And about the define of Tele_service_id from TIA/EIA; the TIA/EIA-41-E haven't released yet. But I know the value in TIA/EIA-41-E is 4100 for WAP.
pentagra
Posted on Tuesday, August 12, 2003 - 04:16 pm:   

Hello, everybody!

Have anybody become successeful with sending WAP Push in CDMA enveronment?

Best wishes,
pentagra.
pentagra
Posted on Tuesday, August 12, 2003 - 04:22 pm:   

Hello, all!

And one more question.
Should the packet (i don't mean all packet, only so called user data, the binary data which is placed inplace of SM text) itself be the same like in GSM network? With UDH? Or there is some difference?

Best wishes,
pentagra.
ake
Posted on Friday, September 12, 2003 - 10:53 am:   

hi,

someone intercept the encoded contents from Openwave, descripted as follows:

The SMS contents sent by the PPG of Openwave is "//WDAAMADnABUwKIABAJiaHJgTISoeqCITJKcetzq2NhMoKiSiHpkAANEANRNzQVRzSltyxFgYmZmZm psaIKCgoPLHyPNO0vPNQnNbRHNA150QAEKCwYADAYAFgI"

I tried many methods to decode it and got a result for your reference, and hope someone give me explanation of each octet.

0x0000 1F FE B0 60 00 60 01 CE 00 2A 60 51 00 02 01 31 ...`.`...*`Q...1
0x0001 34 39 30 26 42 54 3D 50 44 26 49 4E 3D 6E 75 6C 490&BT=PD&IN=nul
0x0002 6C 26 50 54 49 44 3D 32 00 01 A2 00 6A 26 E6 82 l&PTID=2....j&..
0x0003 A8 E6 94 B6 E5 88 B0 31 33 33 33 35 36 34 41 41 .......1333564AA
0x0004 41 41 E5 8F 91 E6 9D A5 E7 9A 84 E6 B6 88 E6 81 AA..............
0x0005 AF 3A 20 00 85 05 83 00 06 03 00 0B 01 00 .: ...........

if any helpful advice, you can send me email:
kehengzhong@hotmail.com
Michael Lum
Posted on Monday, October 06, 2003 - 06:51 pm:   

The format for GSM and CDMA SMS are not the same.
Even the 7-bit encoding for text is not the same.

I have written Ethereal dissectors for both specifications.
Anonymous
Posted on Tuesday, October 07, 2003 - 06:25 pm:   

Skymo is soon launching SkymoUSA
which will support binary encoding
for all US networks, specifically
for WAP Push and MMS Notifications.
Email: usa@skymo.com
Burkhard Neisecke
Posted on Wednesday, October 15, 2003 - 12:28 pm:   

Hi everybody,

who can tell me about the differences of GSM SMS and CDMA SMS respective GSM SMSC and CDMA SMSC. What has to be taken into account when to submit a SM to a GSM SMSC and to CDMA SMSC over SMPP or UCP?

Thanks in advance
Anonymous
 
Posted on Friday, November 14, 2003 - 07:15 am:   

Has anybody cracked that text message?
ROOPA A R
Unregistered guest
Posted on Friday, December 05, 2003 - 06:53 am:   

I am a beginner to use CDMA technology,I want 2 know where i will get some documents on GSM and CDMA technologies (particularly,i want it the IMSI or MIN part and the error codes)
Plz would u giude me
Comete Yi
New member
Username: Cometyi

Post Number: 11
Registered: 10-2003
Posted on Friday, December 26, 2003 - 06:51 am:   

//wd is only for Openwave notify push message ,not cover the push spec.
Mauricio
Unregistered guest
Posted on Friday, February 27, 2004 - 09:38 pm:   

We have problems sending more than seven characters by the traffic channell with the Motorola v8260 I will apreciate a lot any collaboration.
regards
testertest
Unregistered guest
Posted on Wednesday, March 10, 2004 - 03:22 am:   

test
daominhduc
Unregistered guest
Posted on Tuesday, March 30, 2004 - 08:53 am:   

To whom it may concern,

I work for S-Telecom Company, we are selling CDMA mobile phone service in VietNam. Apart from us, there've been two MPSP using GSM tech. We can not send SMS to GSM till now...Can you advice me what the reason for that issue.( We are now facing much customers' complaint )

Thanks and best regards

Duc DaoMinh ( CDMA Mobile phone Center-STelecom-Vietnam)
freewill
Unregistered guest
Posted on Wednesday, March 31, 2004 - 09:50 am:   

hi Duc DaoMinh,
for sms connectivity, we dont use MAP/SS7 directly.
Instead we use a SMS Gateway serving as the bridge between CDMA and GSM networks.the SMS gateway acts as an ESME for both networks, that's way we achieve the sms connectivity in China.
Ya'akov
Unregistered guest
Posted on Sunday, February 20, 2005 - 06:22 am:   

Does anyone know if there is any CDMA software to send SMS messages?

There are many GSM gateway programs, but I cannot find anything for CDMA.

Thanks for your assistance!

Ya'akov
bllf
Unregistered guest
Posted on Wednesday, May 11, 2005 - 11:31 pm:   

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arun83
Unregistered guest
Posted on Tuesday, December 20, 2005 - 03:16 am:   

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Rama Krishna
Unregistered guest
Posted on Saturday, January 21, 2006 - 01:46 pm:   

Can any one help me in IS41 message decoding standards. Iam trying to decode a MO SMS with Teleservice ID as 0x1002.
Anonymous
 
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