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Anonymous
 
Posted on Sunday, November 30, 2003 - 08:02 pm:   

I dont have a data cable or a GSM/GPRS modem so i am looking into using clickatell to send a pretty high number of sms and mms messages (about 200-250 a day)

I found clickatell on this site, and i was wondering if the now sms program worked well along side cliaktell to send msg and receive msg through HTTP.

Thank you.
Bryce Norwood - NowSMS Support
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Username: Bryce

Post Number: 1288
Registered: 10-2002
Posted on Monday, December 01, 2003 - 05:27 pm:   

You cannot receive any SMS messages through an HTTP SMSC connection. We support sending only.

For that matter, however, I'm not sure that Clickatell has any support for received messages.

What a lot of people do is send outbound messages through a service provider, and receive messages through a GSM modem (especially since there is no charge to receive SMS messages on most networks outside of the USA).

I don't regularly use the Clickatell service, but I have had ok experience with it in the past.

Major considerations:

No support for binary SMS for messages delivered to the USA (text formats only).

If you want to send messages that include Unicode character encodings, you should connect to them via SMPP instead of the HTTP interface.
Anonymous
 
Posted on Wednesday, December 10, 2003 - 01:30 am:   

If i connect to them through SMPP instead of HTTP, what would the values be for the now sms program for it to be compatible with clickatell, and do you know if they support sending only sms or both sms and mms. I dont need unicode sending.. i only need basic sending and receiving of sms and mms messages.

For receiving, i alreayd have an account for free incoming message form rogers, and i have found a GSM modem i could buy.

Im only in deep water when it come to sending sms and mms messages, and to integrate it to my web-site. I have been able to integrate your program into the web-stie, and the server, but i dont know how to configurer it to work with clickatell..
Bryce Norwood - NowSMS Support
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Username: Bryce

Post Number: 1354
Registered: 10-2002
Posted on Wednesday, December 10, 2003 - 12:32 pm:   

For the SMPP connection, you just need their host name, port number, and the username and password that they want you to use for the SMPP connection. (There are fewer parameters to configure for SMPP.)

For an HTTP connection, the parameters are described here:

http://support.nowsms.com/discus/messages/1/136.html#POST403

The MMS message sending process involves sending out binary SMS messages.

Clickatell only sends out text messages to most US operators, so I'm not sure about Rogers in Canada.

I'd suggest you give it a try with a WAP push first and see if that makes it through (easier to troubleshoot initially than an MMS).
Digs
Unregistered guest
Posted on Tuesday, December 23, 2003 - 10:21 pm:   

Hi Bryce & Annonymous,

I am extremely curious - is it possible to configure Nowsms to send WAP push on clickatell to US based carriers? I was under the impression that this was not possible or simply did not work?

Just to be sure, WAP push, not plain ol sms text messages but getting wap push messages through clicktell using nowsms.

Please advise, quite important.

Thanks, Digs
Bryce Norwood - NowSMS Support
Board Administrator
Username: Bryce

Post Number: 1453
Registered: 10-2002
Posted on Wednesday, December 31, 2003 - 03:03 pm:   

Digs,

According to the Clickatell web site, it is text messages only to the US carriers.

I did receive some feedback a couple of weeks ago from someone who was sending WAP push messages through Clickatell to AT&T Wireless users in the US.

So it might work, but unless Clickatell officially says that they support it, I'd be hesitant to rely on any support for binary SMS messages into the US carriers.

-bn
Digs
Unregistered guest
Posted on Tuesday, January 06, 2004 - 03:09 am:   

Hi Bryce,

Well, it's all a bit confusing eh? I have included the response from Clickatel below.

Some people say yes some people say no, clickatel cannot make up it's mind either so I don't know what to do?

I want to use your product to send out wap push messages via clickatell or any other bulk sms reasonably priced carrier to USA and Canadian customers.

Our content is WML based and downloaded from WAP sites.
------------------------------------------------

Dear Digby

We have responded below:

>> how are your existing customers sending WAP push
>> messages regardless of content?

Users send WAP Push messages by specifying the text: and udh: parameter for the messages. Details on how to create the actual UDH information is not available from Clickatell, however the developer sections on mobile phone manufacturer's websites to offer some information. The following sites may assist you in creating UDH information:

http://www.ericsson.com/mobilityworld/sub/open/index.html
http://idenphones.motorola.com/iden/developer/developer_home.jsp
http://www.forum.nokia.com/main.html

>> We are not in a position for various reasons to encode all content to
>> UDH spec for multiple devices.

Currently this is the only way to send a WAP Push message. You could send a OTA Bookmark without UDH information, however I doubt this will be what you are looking for - example:

http://api.clickatell.com/http/sendota?session_id=&to=&ota_type=2&name=Clickatel l&url=www.clickatell.com

Regards,
Colin Jenkins
Customer Support
Bryce Norwood - NowSMS Support
Board Administrator
Username: Bryce

Post Number: 1521
Registered: 10-2002
Posted on Tuesday, January 06, 2004 - 06:45 pm:   

Hi Digby,

While the response attempts to be helpful, I think they are missing the point of your question.

I would suggest replying back with a more direct question. Something like this:

==

Colin,

Thank you for your reply. Unfortunately it does not address my area of questions.

I am using software that automatically generates the necessary UDH and message content for sending a WAP push message.

My question is whether or not the Clickatell service can deliver such a binary format message with UDH, to subscribers of US operators.

The coverage section of your web site indicates that only text messages are supported. Is this the case, or can I send these types of binary messages to at least the GSM based US operators (T-Mobile, Cingular and AT&T Wireless)?

===

Feel free to point them to this discussion thread.

-bn
Ryan UK
Unregistered guest
Posted on Monday, January 12, 2004 - 10:15 am:   

Hi. I am a little new to all this but very interested.

A couple of questions:

Do 'WAP pushes' work for any kind of mobile (provided it has WAP capability)? I believe the old bookmark system was model specific?

Secondly, you mention "software that automatically generates the necessary UDH and message content for sending a WAP push message". Would you mind telling me what you use please? Would it generate the UDH and message content for use with Clickatell?

Many thanks.
Bryce Norwood - NowSMS Support
Board Administrator
Username: Bryce

Post Number: 1573
Registered: 10-2002
Posted on Monday, January 12, 2004 - 06:58 pm:   


quote:

Do 'WAP pushes' work for any kind of mobile (provided it has WAP capability)? I believe the old bookmark system was model specific?




Any WAP phone that supports WAP push.

WAP push was standardised by the WAP Forum (now OMA), whereas WAP bookmarks were not officially standardised (they were part of an OTA spec published by Nokia/Ericsson).

So WAP push is far more generally available, although there are some quirks in how some devices handle WAP push messages.


quote:

Secondly, you mention "software that automatically generates the necessary UDH and message content for sending a WAP push message". Would you mind telling me what you use please? Would it generate the UDH and message content for use with Clickatell?




Well, you are posting this message in the support forum for the Now SMS/MMS Gateway product. So go to the home page of this web site (http://support.nowsms.com/discus), and you'll find information on the product that is being referred to here.

-bn

Colin Jenkins
New member
Username: Colinjenkins

Post Number: 1
Registered: 01-2004
Posted on Friday, January 30, 2004 - 09:52 am:   

Dear Digby

Quite a few users are sending binary messages successfully to the USA, however Clickatell does not guarantee binary delivery to the USA at this stage. This is why you will see "(text only)" next to USA operators on the Clickatell coverage page.

Please visit the coverage page at http://www.clickatell.com/brochure/coverage.php/ again in future to see if there are any changes.

Clickatell does guarantee binary to all the operators in Canada excluding Alliant.

Regards,

Colin Jenkins
Customer Support
support@clickatell.com

Please feel free to visit the Clickatell Support Centre at http://support.clickatell.com/ for Clickatell's product guides, FAQ's and our on-line resource centre.

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