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calvin wong
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Username: Calvin

Post Number: 1
Registered: 09-2006
Posted on Saturday, September 16, 2006 - 05:47 am:   

Dear Bryce Norwood
I try to read through many detail answers from the discussion. But still questions need to ask, Sorry, but hope that you could give me a help so that we could start our business ASAP.

1) We using GSM modem to route incoming sms to remote country and send it over using the similar config there. Is that what you call the 2-way sms?
2) While receiving a sms, we will do some processing in our server before routing to the sending end. Is the sms content exactly same as what user entered?
3) Mobile coding are either UTF8 and USC2, nowsms will do the translation and provide the sms content in ASCII code right?
4) I want to use nowsms gateway to receive sms in system A and send sms in other system B, Do I need to pay for two system?
5) when receive sms in system A, do newsms gateway capable to route the sms to remote system? Is yes, what protocol or interface to do so?
6) When there is sms come in, do newsms gateway able to read the CC and NC and deliver out together with the content?
7) What is the sms format will deliver out from nowsms systerm to my logic program? Is the format like (sendeID + sms content + ????), could it be tailor make?
8) We will ask user to enter receiver mobile in the front of the message. So that we could do the routing. From worldwide experience, how we could know the CC and NC of that receiving nos? Seem to me this is the biggest problem, we won’t know until the receiver reply our sms right?
9) How we could purchase your system, i don't find the quote in your site.

Regards

Bryce Norwood - NowSMS Support
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Username: Bryce

Post Number: 6528
Registered: 10-2002
Posted on Monday, September 18, 2006 - 09:10 pm:   

Hi Calvin,

1. That sounds like 2-way SMS. Our definition of 2-way SMS is receiving an SMS and generating an SMS (or taking some other action) in response to the receiving of the SMS.

2. It should be.

3. NowSMS works natively in UTF-8. SMS messages are sent/received using either the GSM character set (a subset that is mostly English and numbers/symbols, plus some accented characters and some Greek characters) or Unicode (UCS2). NowSMS translates the SMS character sets to/from UTF-8 as appropriate. (There are also options that allow you to interface to NowSMS using a character set other than UTF-8.)

4. I would need to understand the configuration better in order to answer the question.

5. Assuming that you are using a GSM modem to receive the message ... I do not know how NowSMS would know to route this message to another phone number unless the true destination phone number was included in the text of the message.

It sounds like you mention in #8 that the true destination phone number will be included in the text of the message. When NowSMS receives the message, you would configure a "2-way" command where NowSMS passes you details about the received message via HTTP. Your HTTP script can then take action, parse the message (check your billing details?), and decide whether it wants to initiate a new HTTP request back to NowSMS to send a message to the true recipient.

6. Country code and network code of the originator or recipient are NOT attributes of the received SMS message.

7. HTTP URL template with "GET" style CGI parameters.

See:

http://www.nowsms.com/documentation/ProductDocumentation/2_way_sms_support.htm
http://support.nowsms.com/discus/messages/1/4520.html
http://www.nowsms.com/support/bulletins/tb-nowsms-003.htm

8. In most areas where there is not SMS interoperability between the mobile operators, there is also not number portability. This means that you can determine which mobile operator a phone number belongs to by looking at the prefix of the phone number, where different mobile operators have been assigned different prefix ranges.

In more technically advanced countries, these prefixes only tell you which operator a phone number was originally registered with ... and the end-user has "number portability" to move their phone number to a different mobile operator. When a country has "number portability", the only way to identify the mobile operator to which a phone number belongs is to use a service provider that can provide this type of number lookup (often called an HLR lookup). However, when number portability exists, it is usually the case that the mobile operators have SMS interoperability with each other, and you can submit an SMS to any of the country's mobile operators to route it to a recipient that belongs to any mobile operator in that country.

9. I believe you also sent these questions in to our sales office, and they should be responding to you via e-mail.

-bn
calvin wong
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Username: Calvin

Post Number: 2
Registered: 09-2006
Posted on Tuesday, September 19, 2006 - 11:04 am:   

Dear Bryce

Right, you are correct, we are try to route sms from one country to another. Just as your answer to Q6. We will need to run two systems, one in country A and other in country B, rounte sms among HTTP interface among the country in bidirectional way. So we need to run two nowsms gateway hence the cost will be very high. Also with your answer of Q.8, we have both number portablility and sms interoperablility supports here but the cost for for interoperablility sms will be high hence there is no room to apply our service. If we are able to know the NC of a mobile user, then we could get advantage as there is zero cost for sms in same network.

Anyway few more questions for follow:

1) When you say the prefix, could you give a example of the prefix? is it like +44 etc.
2) Could you advise some good UTF8 to ASCII convertion program.
3) With the above system, could we use one listen?

Warm regards
Calvin
Bryce Norwood - NowSMS Support
Board Administrator
Username: Bryce

Post Number: 6544
Registered: 10-2002
Posted on Tuesday, September 19, 2006 - 09:17 pm:   

Hi Calvin,

You should investigate if there are any service providers that specifically perform number portability lookup in your target countries (as opposed to those that provide the service internationally).

The reason I say this is that usually, within a country, there is a numbering plan administrator that maintains a central database. If you can find a provider that can link you to that database, you may be able to resolve the queries less expensively.

If you go with an international provider for this type of service, they have to do an HLR lookup over the GSM network ... and this is more expensive. (It has been awhile since I priced it, but I seem to recall being quoted around 2.5 euro cents per lookup.)

1.) Right ... +44 (or in NowSMS terminlogy, +44*) as a prefix for the UK ... or +447624 as a prefix for mobiles on the Isle of Man as a subprefix.

When phone numbers are first allocated, each provider typically registers with the country's numbering plan administrator, and gets different prefix/subprefix blocks for them to allocate numbers under. You can generally get information on these allocations without charge. But number portability complicates this because a user can start with a phone number allocated to one carrier, and then move it to another. There may be some exceptions, but generally speaking, I have not seen number portability information queries offered free of charge.

2.) Usually such functions are provided as part of the scripting language that you use ... not as a separate program. You can configure NowSMS to use any character that Windows supports, but the problem is that when you do this, you then lose access to characters that are not part of the character set that you choose. (UTF-8 is a Unicode derivative, so it supports all languages.)

3.) I'm not really sure what you mean by this.

-bn
calvin wong
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Username: Calvin

Post Number: 3
Registered: 09-2006
Posted on Thursday, September 21, 2006 - 06:08 am:   

Thx Bryce
Thx for the supprot and i will proceed and consult you if necessary. Thx
Calvin
junky junk
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Username: Junk

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Registered: 10-2006
Posted on Monday, October 23, 2006 - 05:11 am:   

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