NowSMS SMPP Lite?

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ashot shahbazian
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Username: Animatele

Post Number: 49
Registered: 06-2004
Posted on Monday, October 26, 2009 - 07:10 am:   

Hi Bryce, Des

One of the most common problems we experience when connecting a new non-operator customer, such as a bank, is that they don't know what SMPP is, while on the other hand our policy is to connect customers via SMPP only.

We typically recommend installing Kannel or EasySMS (which we've never used ourseves and cannot support.) That becomes a long painful process, techs at the customer's side sending messages of varying degrees of crookedness over our test accounts asking us why it's not delivering.

So we need something inexpensive that we can purchase for a customer, set it up in minutes and connect it to our SMPP server, with SSL or without. It'd be up to the customer then to integrate it internally via HTTP, SOAP, XML or just insert text .req files to send their traffic upstream to us.

So I thought about NowSMS Lite and read the PDF. Amazingly, the application seems to include an SMPP server and an MMSC, but it does not have a simple SMPP Client! Is this indeed the case?

If so, would you be able to quickly make it the other way? Such as:

1. SMPP Client (ESME) with the ability to establish one or two (for extra money) uplinks only?
2. Modem sending capability could be useful but not necessary.
3. User-side: whatever it is possible to connect with using a full version of NowSMS. If you include SMPP (one or two users, more for more money) the application can be made useful for operator customers too, such as those not having an ESME. The application would do the RerouteReceived, but at a customer site (well this is in fact more complex, you need to fully support data_sm, which you currently don't.)
4. No MMS features whatsoever. Banks will think of an MMS sending tool as something too frivolous for their networks.
5. Upstream throughput 25 for one uplink and 50 SMS/sec. for two-uplink version.

Is this something you would do? Good if you would, we'd then include integration in our offers, which we currently don't.

I can't say it'd sell like hot cakes, but if the retail was around what it is for NowSMS Lite we'd have sold it to even the smaller customers.

Kind regards,
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ashot shahbazian
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Username: Animatele

Post Number: 57
Registered: 06-2004
Posted on Wednesday, November 18, 2009 - 10:01 pm:   

Hi guys,

Did you give this consideration? I talked to our commercial people they say we'd buy such licenses in dozen-packs.

Please also note that we'd support it mostly on our own, as we know SMPP and routing features of your main product quite well.

Kind regards,
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Bryce Norwood - NowSMS Support
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Username: Bryce

Post Number: 7868
Registered: 10-2002
Posted on Thursday, November 19, 2009 - 10:46 pm:   

Hi Ashot,

It's an interesting idea.

It is something that we have been discussing internally.

I do think there is an opportunity for such a stripped down product, but there are difficult pricing issues involved.

The current NowSMS Lite is essentially a marketing experiment. The full product was clearly too much for someone with a single modem ... and the setup was a bit overwhelming as well.

It was a little odd that we included an SMPP server in there, but we do get a fair amount of interest from customers who have SMPP based applications, but want to be able to redirect them to send over a modem.

There is something to be said for a stripped down SMPP sender. We do have an ongoing discussion going on about this, but there probably won't be much to report until after our mid-December brainstorming session.

-bn

P.S. - Someone named Mirza posted an unrelated question on this thread. If Mirza is looking for a response, I moved the question here: http://support.nowsms.com/discus/messages/33365/41963.html
ashot shahbazian
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Username: Animatele

Post Number: 60
Registered: 06-2004
Posted on Thursday, November 19, 2009 - 11:06 pm:   

Great, please let me know how it progresses.

An "SMPP Lite" might fit into a certain niche. There are:

- numerous free SMPP Client apps
- full Client/Server implementations often derived from open-source/free libs and costing $1000-$3000
- comprehensive solutions such as yours, EMG or Derdack costing tens of thousands
- telco-geared ones (which are typically less flexible than middleware) that can be very expensive.

But there's no suitalbe Windows-based solution in a few hundred dollar range that'd work for a corporate customer wanting one or two uplinks with a decent throughput, option to upgrade it, stability and ease of implementation and management. At least none we would trust enough to offer it to customers.

Kind regards,
Ashot