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steven
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Username: Silenthunter

Post Number: 6
Registered: 02-2010
Posted on Monday, February 08, 2010 - 07:26 pm:   

I would like to get help with the question as this post topic,since MMS support element of html,vcard and vcalendar,how to compile them into head definition or smil,or add attachment directly use MMSCOMP tool?

Thanks for any reply!
steven
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Username: Silenthunter

Post Number: 7
Registered: 02-2010
Posted on Monday, February 08, 2010 - 07:38 pm:   

One point to add up, if use html,I know most of MMS decoders on mobilephones do not support shift it into webview, what expected to get is a piece of text with underline and hyperlink,for example,instead of "www.W3.org", but W3,it links to www.w3.org.

And also I would like to know, what does that mean as "text type text/html", what would be finally get on the mobile phone if properly get use of html
Des - NowSMS Support
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Username: Desosms

Post Number: 1768
Registered: 08-2008
Posted on Monday, February 08, 2010 - 08:01 pm:   

Hi Steven,

I'm not aware of any mobile phone MMS clients that support HTML content. If you include HTML content, in most situations, what will happen is that this part of your content will be removed from the message before it is delivered to the device.

In other words, trying to use HTML content in an MMS message will likely be a waste of your time.

This is not a restriction of NowSMS, it is a restriction of MMS clients. (SMIL and HTML are both presentation mark-up languages and it would be very confusing to try to mix them.)

Vcard and Vcal objects are objects just like an image or video object. If you are referencing them in SMIL, instead of using an "img" or "video" tag, you use a "ref" tag.

For example:

<ref src="contact.vcf"/>

<ref src="calendar.vcs"/>

From a NowSMS and/or MMSCOMP perspective, be sure to use ".vcf" as the file extension for a Vcard object, and ".vcs" as the file extension for a Vcal object. When building an MMS message, NowSMS determines the MIME content type from the file extension.

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Des
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steven
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Username: Silenthunter

Post Number: 8
Registered: 02-2010
Posted on Tuesday, February 09, 2010 - 02:47 am:   

Oh,thank you very much to clarify these confusion of me,I did just one test with html,import it as a object like text,it were transfered to pure text format with all html elements in recieved MMS.
Des - NowSMS Support
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Username: Desosms

Post Number: 1771
Registered: 08-2008
Posted on Tuesday, February 09, 2010 - 03:56 pm:   

Hi Steven,

I can't stress enough that HTML within an MMS message is not going to work.

If you want to continue to analyse it, keep in mind that SMIL and HTML are both presentation mark-up languages. So to have an HTML object inside of a SMIL presentation, or vice-versa, logically does not fit.

Would it have been better if MMS had been designed to use a subset of HTML instead of a subset of SMIL as the presentation language ... maybe.

As for what happens if you include an HTML object within an MMS message, you're likely to see different results with different operator MMSCs and different MMS clients ... with none of those results desirable.

The basic MIME type for HTML is "text/html" ... and it is certainly possible that some MMS clients might decide that any "text/*" MIME type should be treated as plain text, displaying the raw HTML in the message.

Other MMS clients might treat it as an attachment that could be launched in a browser.

Other MMS clients might treat it as an object of unknown type.

Some operator MMSCs may discard it as an unsupported MIME type.

I read back through your earlier message ... and I think you want to just include a hyperlink in your text.

If so, then just include the http:// prefix ... for example, http://www.3gpp.org ...

This does NOT guarantee that the receiving MMS client will treat it as a hyperlink, but many will.

Most modern MMS and SMS clients automatically turn http:// URLs within the text of a message into a hyperlink. (Some will also recognise www. as the start of a URL, without http://) This behaviour is not guaranteed, as it is not part of any standard ... it is just logical behaviour that is part of a good user interface design.

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Des
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steven
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Username: Silenthunter

Post Number: 9
Registered: 02-2010
Posted on Tuesday, February 09, 2010 - 06:30 pm:   

As been said of you:"Would it have been better if MMS had been designed to use a subset of HTML instead of a subset of SMIL as the presentation language ... maybe. " this makes sense, Samsung has a patent with software tool for users to make MMS with Html instead of SMIL.

As for hyperlink,http:// or www,or even a dot would make sense,just like "France.Italy" would be treated as a URL by many smart phones. My dream is real hyperlink, example, please follow my twitter#, this link point to my actual twitter URL,I just haven't find any clue on web for what tag or some other method to make it happen, in Smil2.0 full set,or above, link is just basic usage, and I found some official MMS mesage from our local operator do have this kind of hyperlink for their own advertisement. so I think,their maybe some simple method to make it.
Des - NowSMS Support
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Username: Desosms

Post Number: 1787
Registered: 08-2008
Posted on Wednesday, February 10, 2010 - 08:49 pm:   

Assuming that you have a GSM modem connected to a NowSMS server ... (A dedicated GSM modem, not a phone acting as a GSM modem, see http://www.nowsms.com/support/GSMModem.htm.)

If you have a message on your phone that has some content that you are interested in seeing, forward it to the phone number associated with your modem.

NowSMS will receive the message and unpack it so you can see the content pieces used to build it.

Good luck!

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Des
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