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Dark Dragon
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Username: Darkdrgn2k

Post Number: 18
Registered: 05-2014
Posted on Thursday, July 23, 2015 - 07:24 pm:   

So im trying to setup Huawei e3276 WITHOUT compaion
i had it working on the laptop but when i try installing it on a differnt pc i cannot get MMS to work

I think it has to do with the NETWORK CONNECTION OR the APN

selected i have 3 differnt network connections

Local
HUAWEI Network Connect
and
Mobile BroadBand Connection

I tried all 3 they all fail to send MMS

But when the compnion is up it works fine
I know i havd a similar problem when compnaion was setup with the wrong APN it would some how take president over teh one in NOW SMS, is there a way to force the APN?
Des - NowSMS Support
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Username: Desosms

Post Number: 5378
Registered: 08-2008
Posted on Saturday, July 25, 2015 - 02:14 pm:   

Hi,

Before addressing the question, a recommendation...for maximum performance sending and/or receiving MMS, I would strongly recommend using an Android device instead of a USB modem.


For a USB modem, if you use a "Network Connection" that does not start with "Modem:", this means that some other software (network driver) is managing the connection. The APN must be set in that other software.

NowSMS can only manually set the APN when a modem interface is used for the network connection.

Other USB modem considerations...

If the Sim in the modem is provisioned for a modem, MMS support might not be provisioned for the SIM. (Because the operator believes thee modem cannot support MMS.) Swap the SIM with another device to verify MMS capability.

Some operators (T-Mobile US) auto detect known modems and force them to modem provisioning. (In T-mobile's case, MMS support is not provisioned.)

Those considerations are also reasons for why I like Android devices as modems for MMS.

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Des
NowSMS Support
Dark Dragon
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Username: Darkdrgn2k

Post Number: 20
Registered: 05-2014
Posted on Thursday, July 30, 2015 - 06:56 pm:   

I have found that the DEFAULT APN (isp.telus.com) does not support MMS
but SP.telus.com

It seems that somethign goes really wrong with the modem when it stores messages on the SIM

if i dont use the companion software that comes with the modem, will the messages STILL be stored on the sim or will they simply be in the memory.

Also without the companion software can i use multiple modems in one pc?
Des - NowSMS Support
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Username: Desosms

Post Number: 5384
Registered: 08-2008
Posted on Thursday, July 30, 2015 - 07:55 pm:   


quote:

I have found that the DEFAULT APN (isp.telus.com) does not support MMS
but SP.telus.com




This is true for many mobile operators...about 50% use a separate APN for MMS. The MMS only APN does not get charged for data, but only data transfer to the MMSC is allowed.

Modems are expected to be used for internet access and are preconfigured to use general purpose data APNs.


quote:

if i dont use the companion software that comes with the modem, will the messages STILL be stored on the sim or will they simply be in the memory.




They should remain on the modem until removed by NowSMS...whether that is SIM memory or modem device memory is not important. (The Huawei companion software has the "leave on SIM" option, which means that software should not delete the messages from the modem.)

I'm reviewing your other thread with one of my colleagues, because I see some inconsistencies, but I want my colleague's feedback before I reply. I will reply shortly on that thread.


quote:

Also without the companion software can i use multiple modems in one pc?




Generally speaking, it depends on the manufacturer's driver software. Unfortunately, because the manufacturer assumes the device is to provide internet connectivity, most never assume a use case for multiple modems...at least that seems to be the case for USB stick modems.

I recall some old threads...a customer with 7 or 8 iTegno modems...another with 2 Option modems who could not get his system to recognize a third.

I tried a couple different Huawei modems awhile back, but could not get both recognized at the same time.

These days, I really have to reemphasize my Android device recommendation. The MOTO G is a great device that is reasonably priced unlocked. You don't even need the latest model. The MOTO E is cheaper, and also very good...it just has less RAM.

There is no companion software or USB drivers to deal with...multiple modems is smooth, and MMS performance is much better than with a modem (especially when on an LTE network).

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Des
NowSMS Support
Dark Dragon
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Username: Darkdrgn2k

Post Number: 22
Registered: 05-2014
Posted on Thursday, July 30, 2015 - 08:14 pm:   

My issue with android:

The problem with the android modems is that i don't trust WIFI to provide a secure connection, and using a NETWORK ADAPTER (if the phone supports it) uses up the charging port.

And with the bloatware oh phones you cant predict what will happen, what app will close or when the phone will be rebooted.

Additionally i could not remotely access the device to reboot and such. so if the program crashes for whatever reason, i have to be on side to reboot it.
Des - NowSMS Support
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Username: Desosms

Post Number: 5386
Registered: 08-2008
Posted on Thursday, July 30, 2015 - 08:34 pm:   

Understood...although a closed WPA2 WiFi network without internet connectivity may be worth considering.

I like the MOTO phones for very minimal bloatware. Initially, we had some issues with the MOTO E because of low RAM, but we found ways to address this.

The most common Android problem seems to be loss of WiFi connectivity...we have a watchdog process that resets WiFi when communication is idle for too long. And another watchdog on the app itself. We've considered a device reboot watchdog, but so far that has not been necessary.

Just things to consider. I have more thoughts to post in the other thread.
Dark Dragon
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Username: Darkdrgn2k

Post Number: 23
Registered: 05-2014
Posted on Thursday, July 30, 2015 - 08:56 pm:   

Our pilot project has worked VERY well and we are looking at expanding to 4 modems so maybe its worth wile looking into.

other problem with WIFI is that neighbour's eating up the small spectrum with their wifis

I wonder if i can find a way to connect a usb network card AND a charger together.

Also how do you address the reboot starting the app automatically?
Des - NowSMS Support
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Username: Desosms

Post Number: 5394
Registered: 08-2008
Posted on Wednesday, August 05, 2015 - 06:30 pm:   

Sorry, I missed your follow-up questions.


quote:

other problem with WIFI is that neighbour's eating up the small spectrum with their wifis





Don't forget about the 5Ghz 802.11n band. Shorter range, but WiFi router and devices could be in the same room.


quote:

I wonder if i can find a way to connect a usb network card AND a charger together.




If you find any promising leads, please let us know.


quote:

Also how do you address the reboot starting the app automatically?




When the app service is first started, it registers as a start-up process. Press the stop button, and it de-registers.

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Des
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Dark Dragon
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Username: Darkdrgn2k

Post Number: 29
Registered: 05-2014
Posted on Tuesday, August 25, 2015 - 02:04 am:   

so since the SMSs on the sim where approaching 40, (at 38) i moved them all to LOCAL then moved the SMS back to the sim card

nowsms picked up all the messges without a problem

If i try moving the MMS trigger messgae however it will be processed as SMS

is there anyway to process the MMS messages manually?
Dark Dragon
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Username: Darkdrgn2k

Post Number: 30
Registered: 05-2014
Posted on Tuesday, August 25, 2015 - 02:43 am:   

Sorry wrong thread
Des - NowSMS Support
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Username: Desosms

Post Number: 5417
Registered: 08-2008
Posted on Tuesday, August 25, 2015 - 03:38 pm:   


quote:

If i try moving the MMS trigger messgae however it will be processed as SMS

is there anyway to process the MMS messages manually?




In the log that you forwarded, the data in the reposted SMS that contained the MMS notification data is corrupt beyond recognition. There is no way that we see to extract the necessary MMS trigger from this message.

As I stated in the other thread, the best solution would be a different modem, or an Android device.

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Des
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