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Liu Yanxiang
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Username: Yanxiang

Post Number: 5
Registered: 03-2004
Posted on Friday, July 09, 2004 - 04:18 am:   

Hi, Bryce,
I got a little progress with the NOWSMS gateway, but more questions.
I could use my Nokia 7650 to receive MMS, which is submitted on the web interface. That's fine. But I send from the phone, and still cannot get anything in the MMS-IN dir. I could only got notification in the SMS-IN dir. It looks like this:
[SMS-IN]
ModemName=Standard 56000 bps Modem
Sender=1888186
PhoneNumber=+6593777367
Data=
Binary=0

Then I took the Singtel (Singapore operator) SIM card from the modem and put it into the phone. The mobile phone started to retrieved the MMS message, which is intended to be sent to the PC.

I got confused. Is there still some problem with the settings? I put the Singtel operator for the 'MMS Setings' under 'SMSC', and choose the 'default route' as Singtel under 'MMSC Routing'. In my case, does the gateway also function as an external MMSC or just a gateway?
By the way, is it necessary to tick the checkbox of 'Activate MMSC Service' under "MMSC'?

Really need help. Thanks a lot.
Bryce Norwood - NowSMS Support
Board Administrator
Username: Bryce

Post Number: 3058
Registered: 10-2002
Posted on Wednesday, July 14, 2004 - 10:40 pm:   

The MMSC Service does not need to be active for this.

I guess I'd like to see an SMSDEBUG.LOG to try to understand what is actually coming in to the modem. It looks like you are receiving a blank SMS message instead of an actual MMS notification. I wonder if there is perhaps a problem with either how NowSMS is parsing this particular notification, or if there is a problem with the modem.

What type of modem are you using?

To enable the SMSDEBUG.LOG, manually edit SMSGW.INI, and under the [SMSGW] section header, add Debug=Yes. Then restart the NowSMS service.
Liu Yanxiang
New member
Username: Yanxiang

Post Number: 6
Registered: 03-2004
Posted on Thursday, July 15, 2004 - 03:49 am:   

Hi, Bryce,
I am using a Wavecom Fastrack GSM Modem M1206B, attached to COM1.

I attached the SMSDEBUG file. Please have a look and hope you could help me find the problem.
Thanks a lot.

Yanxiang
application/octet-streamSMSDEBUG.LOG
SMSDEBUG.LOG (8.1 k)
Bryce Norwood - NowSMS Support
Board Administrator
Username: Bryce

Post Number: 3074
Registered: 10-2002
Posted on Friday, July 16, 2004 - 08:07 pm:   

Hi Yanxiang,

This doesn't make any sense.

For whatever reason, you are actually receiving a blank SMS message.

The message that you should receive would be a bianry message with MMS notification data.

What happens if you take the SIM and put it into a phone that does not support MMS. What happens when you then send an MMS to that phone number?

Also, back to the modem with the Wavecom attached ... using NowSMS ... try to send an MMS notification to the phone number of the modem, with the notification URL being http://www.nowsms.com/download/btmms.mms.

I'm wondering if the modem will see that notification properly ... to attempt to determine whether this is a modem problem, or something peculilar about Singtel MMS service.

-bn
Liu Yanxiang
New member
Username: Yanxiang

Post Number: 8
Registered: 03-2004
Posted on Saturday, July 17, 2004 - 03:47 am:   

Hi, Bryce,
I tried to use NowSMS web interface to send an MMS notification to the phone number of the modem, with the notification URL being http://www.nowsms.com/download/btmms.mms. But it said 'Error Unable to fetch the URL'
Any idea?
I attached the debug files.
application/octet-streamSMSDEBUG.LOG
SMSDEBUG.LOG (16.0 k)
application/octet-streamMMSWAPDEBUG.log
MMSWAPDEBUG.LOG (19.8 k)
application/octet-streamMMSCDEBUG.log
MMSCDEBUG.LOG (16.7 k)
Bryce Norwood - NowSMS Support
Board Administrator
Username: Bryce

Post Number: 3122
Registered: 10-2002
Posted on Wednesday, July 21, 2004 - 10:22 pm:   

The URL is vvalid, so I'm not sure why you are unable to fetch it ... unless maybe you are behind a proxy server for web access?

Unfortunately we don't have a way to configure a proxy server for validating URLs like this.

Although, if you have the v5.50d update (http://www.nowsms.com/download/nowsms550d.zip), there is an additional URL parameter that tells NowSMS not to try to validate a URL when submitting an MMS notification.

You'd issue the command:

http://server:port/?Phonenumber=xxxxx&MMSURL=www.nowsms.com/download/btmms.mms&M MSURLValidate=No

That MMSURLValidate=No tells NowSMS that it doesn't need to validate the URL, just send out a notification that points to it.

I still think it is worth trying this. I am curious to see if the modem receives this notification correctly, or if it also appears as a blank message.

The issue basically seems to be that instead of an MMS notification message over SMS, you are receiving an SMS message that is completely blank. The question is ... is this happening because the modem is corrupting the SMS that contains the MMS notification (maybe there is something unusual about the notification generated by the operator) ... or is the operator MMSC doing a real time lookup on your device and because of that lookup sending you an invalid message.

I'm leaning toward suspecting an issue with the modem ... maybe a firmware version issue ... or who knows what else. I would suggest trying to get a firmware update ... and if there is anyway you can get your hands on a different modem to try, I would recommend that.
Liu Yanxiang
New member
Username: Yanxiang

Post Number: 9
Registered: 03-2004
Posted on Thursday, September 02, 2004 - 03:11 pm:   

Hi,
I tried to use this URL
http://155.69.254.97:8800/?Phonenumber=+6593777367&MMSURL=www.nowsms.com/downloa d/btmms.mms&M%20MSURLValidate=No

However, it still displaya:
Error: Unable to fetch URL:
http://www.nowsms.com/download/btmms.mms

By the way, do u know anyone else use the Wavecom fastrack GSM modem M1206B with your software and is able to receive MMS messages in the MMS-IN dir?
Urgent :-(

Thank you a lot.
Yanxiang
Bryce Norwood - NowSMS Support
Board Administrator
Username: Bryce

Post Number: 3405
Registered: 10-2002
Posted on Thursday, September 02, 2004 - 09:55 pm:   

Yanxiang,

Make sure that you're using v5.51, and that you don't actually have a space character in the URL. (MMSURLValidate is all one word.)

In the posting above, it appears that the discussion board software is inserting extra space characters into long URLs.

The Wavecom modems are quite common, so I wouldn't expect the receive problem is specific to the modem ... although it could be a problem with the modem on that particular operator.

I'd try to get an alternative modem ... and/or a SIM card with an alternative operator. (I searched my archives for references to Singtel, and I didn't see any incidents other than you and I believe a colleague of yours, who were trying to receive messages via Singtel. But in the process, I did see incidents from people who were successfully receiving MMS from Starhub.)
Liu Yanxiang
New member
Username: Yanxiang

Post Number: 10
Registered: 03-2004
Posted on Friday, September 03, 2004 - 10:19 am:   

Hi, Bryce,
So sad, the free trial version has reached its expiry date.
Since we are urgent to solve this receiving MMS problem. If it is able to receive the MMS in the directory, definitely we will purchase your software.
Since the gateway is expected to run a particular PC, so could you give me some means to extend its expiry days (maybe for one more month?) so that we could do more testin.
We really want to solve the problem. Thanks a lot.
Regards,
Yanxiang
Bryce Norwood - NowSMS Support
Board Administrator
Username: Bryce

Post Number: 3417
Registered: 10-2002
Posted on Friday, September 03, 2004 - 04:55 pm:   

Yanxiang,

I'm currently away from the office, but send an e-mail to lisa@nowwireless.com, and reference this thread on the discussion board, and she can help you out.

-bn
Liu Yanxiang
New member
Username: Yanxiang

Post Number: 11
Registered: 03-2004
Posted on Wednesday, September 08, 2004 - 08:52 am:   

Hi,Bryce,
I tried the url again and it still shows
Error: Unable to fetch URL:
http://www.nowsms.com/download/btmms.mms

By the way, could you help me find out who successfully received MMS using Starhub? I would like to contact that person.
And what are the SETTINGS for the Starhub operator, since I tried that SIM card, but still didn't work. So there is maybe something wrong with the settings, I think.

Your help will be so valuable to me. I really appreciate it. Thanks a lot.
Regards,
Yanxiang