Mass Mission-Critical WAP Push or Equivalent

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Thomas E. Beals
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Username: Datapimp

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Registered: 01-2005
Posted on Monday, January 03, 2005 - 09:38 pm:   

While developing a service that sends mission-critical content and trying to get it into the marketplace I have ran into many problems when it comes to being able to send WAP Push Messages (or equivalent) to all phones on all networks.

What I would like to do is create a thread where we can test and post our results and in the end have one consolidated list of what works, what doesn't, and any work arounds.

To start off I will lay down what I know and what I know and am doing:

I believe WAP Push to be a GSM technology and therefore will work on any GSM Networks (Cingular, AT&T, and T-Mobile at the moment).

On non-GSM Netorks I have reverted to sending SMS messages containing a link. Then once the user opens the message they can goto the link for the content. Nextel and Sprint seem to work well with that method. I am currently testing each handset and each network and compiling the data into one doc and then will publish this. I would like help in doing this.

To Help: Post your ideas, solutions, thoughts, etc. Or if you have none, you can contribute by identifying your phone and network and whether or not you can recieve a wap push message. If not can you goto a link contained in an SMS.

I appreciate everyones help and look forward to the discussions.
Thomas E. Beals
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Registered: 01-2005
Posted on Monday, January 03, 2005 - 09:54 pm:   

Nextel - Motorola i730: Can not recieve WAP Push but can goto link contained in SMS.

Sprint - Samsung a620: Can not recieve WAP Push but can goto link contained in SMS.
Greg Schwartz
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Registered: 04-2005
Posted on Thursday, April 07, 2005 - 04:15 pm:   

You can goto a link in a Nextel SMS message, however, you cannot download content to your handset from that link. Nextel restricts their network so the only way to download content (i.e. java apps) "over-the-air" is by using their website or the Nextel run WAP downloads site.
Anonymous
 
Posted on Thursday, April 14, 2005 - 12:07 am:   

Good idea.

Nextel (is as Greg says) : The browser does the download using updownload protocol. There was a doc describing this protocol on the Openwave site (OPWV 102: Download Fun Protocol), but the link is no longer active. Anyone have this doc, please !!!?

The Nextel site is actually run by Moto, Nextel just link to it. The device talks to the Moto server which then talks to the Nextel content server. See OpenWave DownloadFun specification. Wap not available on Nextel iDEN network.
SMS with a link will not work in my experience, i..e. the target will be diplayed/played not downloaded and stored ? Is there away around this have I missed a trick here ?

CDMA (Sprint/Verizon) : 7Bit network. WAP does not work. Microsoft smartphones do not have their resident WAP handler on CDMA devices because of this. Is there a way around this ?

My experience ;
Nokia devices : OMA (with user pin signing) and OTA and Nokia Smart Messaging, SI work fine. Used 6600, 6630, Communicator

Ericsson : OTA and Nokia Smart Messaging , SL/SI work fine, with some restrictions on the latter . used P800, P900, P910, K700i

MS Smartphone, PPCPE . OMA SI/SL all work fine. IMSI or UserPin signed for OMA. Need to set up the security in the registry to get them working correctly.

Moto: OMA for GPRS settings .. but not a lot else.

Siemens: OMA

To get a list of phones and some of their capabilities goto
https://secure.mouse2mobile.com/clients/vodafoneAUS/portal/internet/3phone.asp?n etworkId=1&countryId=1

if u have a phone on which u can debug, (i.e. ms smartphone or PPCPE) u can capture the incoming WAP messages (save, then convert from wbxml back to xml) or Nokia SCKL commands (these don’t get executed on smartphone so just get put in the SMS inbox) for those phone types that can actually be provisioned over the air for the various options GPRS, EMAIL ect that are available. Its also handy as it lists, by default gives the manual operations required, those devices that cannot by provisioned.
Mouse2mobile also support other service providers and manufactures which may use phones other than listed at the Vodaphone site.
johnny
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Posted on Monday, August 29, 2005 - 07:38 am:   

Thomas E. Beals, as you said"On non-GSM Netorks I have reverted to sending SMS messages containing a link. Then once the user opens the message they can goto the link for the content. Nextel and Sprint seem to work well with that method",i don't understand what is "SMS containing a link", could you explain it.And please give me an example , thank you in advance.