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sam
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Username: Samdsouza

Post Number: 35
Registered: 08-2006
Posted on Saturday, November 12, 2011 - 09:50 am:   

Hi Des

Was testing the "Send Multimedia Message". The message was received properly but the "From" and "Text" was not displayed on the handset. Only the "Subject" was displayed.

Also there was one more feature i was thinking. Is it possible to auto excute the URL in the SMS content? I mean lets say the URL sent by NowSMS is "http://localhost/MZ/tgSVtB9J". Currently the user has to click manually on this URL to go to the MMS content. Is it possible that when the user opens the SMS it auto executes the URL so that the users mobile browser is called (if its an image) and the image is automatically fetched from the URL?

Kindly let me know

Thanks
Sam
sam
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Username: Samdsouza

Post Number: 36
Registered: 08-2006
Posted on Sunday, November 13, 2011 - 08:53 am:   

Hi Des

Wanted to add on the above topic. NowMMSC has being setup as Direct Delivery. Am sending MMS messages to mobile handsets having the operators MMSC url/connections in their MMS APN.

Messages are received but they are not auto downloaded. It shows a "download" option in android and on nokia it asks to "retrieve" the mms.

Now one mobile operator doesnt allow outside apn access so the message is not downloaded. But one operator does allow me to download the message. Shouldnt this MMS have been auto downloaded in the first place?

I saw this thread where Bryce mentions "In the log above, the receiving device is posting back a status report indicating that it has received the MMS message content, but that it will download it later. "

http://support.nowsms.com/discus/messages/1/4363.html

Kindly let me know

Thanks
Sam
Des - NowSMS Support
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Username: Desosms

Post Number: 3589
Registered: 08-2008
Posted on Monday, November 14, 2011 - 08:20 pm:   

Hi Sam,

I'm not sure how this all relates together.

Your first post is not sending MMS. We've used different names for it over the years, but basically it is packaging multimedia content into a web page and sending either an SMS Text or WAP Push message with a URL link to access the content.

This approach is basically a kludge to get around operator MMS restrictions. It is not as elegant as sending an actual MMS.

There is no way to auto-execute or load the content, as this would be considered a security risk. (The WAP Push specifications did define a push type "service load" that was intended to automatically load a URL ... but in the real world, there are too many security concerns with this approach, so it is generally not enabled in devices.)

Your second post seems to be referring to sending an actual MMS. If the URL is not accessible, some clients will display a prompt to download the content. (I've seen this frequently in real world Android device usage, where a network hiccup or multiple MMS messages being received simultaneously results in a message with a download prompt.)

I also seem to remember Nokia devices having an MMS setting to prompt before downloading MMS messages (or to prompt first when roaming).

I guess the question is ... does the download/retrieve option work? If not, are you sure that the operator MMS APN is truly open?

Regarding the thread you referenced ... that's pretty old ... 7-1/2 years.

I asked Bryce about this, and his recollection was that these Nokia devices had an issue with message size attributes in the MMS notification. NowSMS would include the message size in the notification, and if this was larger than what the device supported, the device would ignore the message. Shortly thereafter we began lying about the message size in the notification (once the device connects, if it is too big, we scale it down).

He also recalls an issue where Nokia phones acted funny with messages that have no sender address, so when sending via the web form, be sure to include a sender address.

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Des
NowSMS Support
sam
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Username: Samdsouza

Post Number: 40
Registered: 08-2006
Posted on Tuesday, November 15, 2011 - 09:03 am:   

Hi Des

Regrets i mixed up all the stuff. Am clear now. Thanks for your explanations.

On the picture message thing following issue remains:

Was testing the "Send Multimedia Message". The message was received properly but the "From" and "Text" was not displayed on the handset. Only the "Subject" was displayed.

Android 2.3.3 is an issue. Nokia would prompt in roaming

Thanks for your time.

Regards
Sam
sam
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Username: Samdsouza

Post Number: 42
Registered: 08-2006
Posted on Tuesday, November 15, 2011 - 12:00 pm:   

Hi Des

On the MMS part...got the following observation

While sending the mms from handset to handset or handset to EmailID subject is comming untitled for android handsets

I got the following setup but of no avail:

[TranslateText]
Subject=

MMSC.ini
MMSNoSubject=

The subject comes untitled. Am i missing something?

Kindly let me know

Thanks for your time.

Regards
Sam
sam
New member
Username: Samdsouza

Post Number: 44
Registered: 08-2006
Posted on Tuesday, November 15, 2011 - 01:50 pm:   

Hi Des

Just to add to the "Subject" Issue. MMS2Email is displaying the subject just fine.

It picked up

[TranslateText]
Multimedia Message=

Am also confused between this 2 parameters

[TranslateText]
Multimedia Message=
Subject=

Is it the same thing?

Also the MMSNoSubject parameter. This is only for incomming MMS via SMTP?

Kindly let me know

Thanks
Sam
Des - NowSMS Support
Board Administrator
Username: Desosms

Post Number: 3595
Registered: 08-2008
Posted on Tuesday, November 15, 2011 - 04:59 pm:   

Hi Sam,

I'm sorry, but I'm having trouble following your questions. So apologies if I miss something and fail to answer.

I can tell you that if you see the text "untitled", this is not text that we insert. I would have to better understand the flow/path of the message in order to understand where this text is coming from.

It is common for both Android and iPhone clients to not include a subject when sending an MMS message.

For phone-to-phone with both subscriber and recipient on our MMSC, if the subject is blank (or omitted), the message is forwarded as is, with blank subject (or no subject header if the client did not include one).

For phone-to-phone, if the message must leave the MMSC (transit to an external e-mail connection), if the subject is blank or missing, the MMSC will insert the text "Multimedia Message" as the subject.

For phone-to-email, if the subject is blank or missing, the MMSC will insert the text "Multimedia Message" as the subject.

The text "Multimedia Message" can be changed using the following setting:

[TranslateText]
Multimedia Message=

Regarding the following setting:

[TranslateText]
Subject=

This only applies to the literal text "Subject" as it appears in a web page when using the "Send Multimedia" (not MMS) functionality. (Not the message subject, but the actual text header that reads "Subject".)

If the subject actually says "untitled", this is being inserted by another network entity.

For example, I know that if you send an MMS from AT&T to T-Mobile in the US, if there is no subject, the literal text "no subject" is inserted. (However, if you send in the other direction, it remains blank.)

Perhaps you are routing your message through an operator MMSC that inserts the literal text "untitled".


quote:

Also the MMSNoSubject parameter. This is only for incomming MMS via SMTP?


Yes

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Des
NowSMS Support
sam
New member
Username: Samdsouza

Post Number: 46
Registered: 08-2006
Posted on Tuesday, November 15, 2011 - 05:14 pm:   

Hi Des

Thats a perfect explanation. Thanks a million. This clears the issue.

Regards
Sam