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Paul Bryson
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Username: Pbryson

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Registered: 01-2010
Posted on Thursday, January 28, 2010 - 01:27 pm:   

What is the difference between MMS notification and WAP Push?
Because, if I send a WAP push, the phone opens the browser, but if I send a MMS notification it will try download (as MMS, I guess) after the user clicks on it.
Another question, are there other methods to send the MMS? what about sms binary?
Des - NowSMS Support
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Registered: 08-2008
Posted on Thursday, January 28, 2010 - 03:20 pm:   

Hi Paul,

An MMS notification is a type of WAP push. It is an "application directed" WAP push, in that the push is directed to the MMS client.

What most of us think of as a "WAP Push" is usually a "service indication" (or the less widely implemented for security reasons, "service load") push. That's because these two push types were the first WAP push based protocols/formats defined.

In current mobile phone environments, WAP push messages (including MMS notifications) are sent using a binary SMS format.

For more information on How MMS works, please see http://www.nowsms.com/howmmsworks.htm.

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Des
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Paul Bryson
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Posted on Thursday, January 28, 2010 - 04:15 pm:   

Thanks Des,
I have read that link, but new to this so trying to understand better, so please bare with me.
If I dumped a mms file onto a server, is there a method in nowSMS that will allow me to send a MMS notification, which AUTOMATICALLY cause the phone to go fetch the content, in other words simulate the send MMS process.
The reason: I want to send the same MMS to 1000's of phones, but would rather (for cost purposes) just upload the mms once (to the users pre-set cell provider's MMSC,(still negotiating this)), and then just send sms notifications that force the phones to fetch the mms.
Thanks
Paul
Des - NowSMS Support
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Username: Desosms

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Posted on Thursday, January 28, 2010 - 06:45 pm:   

Hi Paul,

For the most part, mobile operators do not allow external MMSC message delivery. So if you put your MMS content on to an arbitrary web server and send an MMS notification pointing to the content, the MMS settings on the recipient mobile phones will not allow a connection to retrieve the message content.

The link that I referenced previously describes all this in more detail. The issue is that most mobile operators do not charge for data access on their MMS APN, and therefore, they do not want holes that allow users to access free data via this APN.

As far as uploading once to the operator MMSC, MMS does support multiple recipients per message instance, so that is feasible. The interface with the operator MMSC would normally be via the MM7 protocol, which uses a different format than the MM1 format that you might be experimenting with for MMS notifications.

Whether or not the operator will charge you less because you are sending the same content to multiple recipients ... well, I wouldn't bank on that. From the operator perspective, you may be posting the message to them one time, but the data bandwidth between you and the operator is the internet, and that's cheap. The operator still needs to deliver the message 1 at a time to each of your recipient, with a separate MMS notification and download message over the mobile network.

My point is that the mobile bandwidth is the same to the mobile operator whether you send 1 bulk message to 1000 recipients, or 1000 personalised messages to each of those recipients. So I wouldn't expect any great savings, but you can always try.

(And even if the content is on your web server instead of the operator MMSC, it's still the same amount of data over the mobile network.)

If you do go the MM7 route, note that by default, when NowSMS sends messages out via an MM7 connection, if the message is addressed to more than 100 recipients, NowSMS breaks the message into groups of 100 recipients and performs multiple submissions. The reason for this is because different operators and service providers have different limits on the number of recipients per message instance. To modify this setting, it is necessary to manually edit the VASPOUT\accountname\VASP.INI file associated with the "MMSC Routing" definition. Under the [VASP] header, add MaxRecips=#### to specfy the number of recipients allowed per single MMS message instance.

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Des
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Paul Bryson
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Posted on Thursday, January 28, 2010 - 08:38 pm:   

Des,
Thanks that makes sense, just some queries, but firstly I would like to say how impressed I am with the rapid and comprehensive support from you, thanks. I am only evaluating your product but very impressed with it and the support.

1) I assume most providers will charge the sender for MMS, but would they charge the reciever for WAP push (just a link, not MMS), because the reciever needs to click on the link to download,right?

2) What is the difference (cost or bandwidth usage) of sending the MMS standard with java sendMMS class, compared to with param mms.addparameter ("SMSWAPPush", "Yes") (IE: Multimedia Content Push)?

3) You say nowSMS uses MM7 by default, is this true if my MMSC routing is set to MM1?

4) your answer to question 3 might answer this, but if I have to change the MMSC routing setting from MM1 to MM7 does the same java sendMMS stuff work or is there another example to point me to?

5) I assume then one cant send to multiple recipients if using MM1, or is it just cheaper using MM7 for multiple recipients?

Thanks
Paul
geet
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Posted on Friday, February 05, 2010 - 05:34 am:   

hi Paul Bryson,

I have same requiremnt as yours.I need to send a MMS from my Java application to mobile. I have downloaded nowsms, but no idea of how to use it. Could u pls let me know as how to go abt it??

Wating for early reply .

regards
Gee
Paul Bryson
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Posted on Friday, February 05, 2010 - 06:42 am:   

Hi
You can view:
http://blog.nowsms.com/2009/02/nowsms-java-example-send-sms-message.html
geet
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Posted on Friday, February 05, 2010 - 07:30 am:   

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